FAQs

Actually they aren’t really shiny yet because it’s really hard to take pictures of shiny coins. The coins pictured have been cleaned (unless otherwise stated) with Brasso which leaves them a bit dull. Once we took the picture we polish them (the pennies I mean) with Autosol and than they are incredibly shiny – you wouldn’t believe it. Every coin turns into a little jewel – no kidding!

Autosol Metal Polish. This incomparably superior, quality metal polish is Autosol LLC.’s most popular product. It has won three international gold medals and is recommended by manufacturers, museums and restoration experts around the world. It safely and easily removes oxidation, corrosion, stains, and rust. It produces a brilliant reflective luster and leaves an invisible protective coating to ensure a long-lasting shine.
Strongly recommended by us: “We have yet to discover a product which does a better job in polishing our cherished elongated coins – period!!”

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Zincers and Coppers – what’s the difference?

Zincer

Composition: 97.5% Zinc, 2.5% Copper
Mass (Weight): 2.5 Grams

Copper

Composition: Brass (95% copper, 5% zinc)
Mass (Weight): 3.11 Grams

Notice the grey or silver colored shadows within the coin design of the “zincer” coin?
Zinc pennies are made of zinc but plated with pure copper (and that’s the reason zincers are often way shinier than copper pennies which are made of brass – not pure copper). When you elongated (press or smash) such a zinc cent the copper plating breaks and what you see revealed is the real material of the coin – zinc which is bleeding through.

Before 1982, the U.S. minted pennies that were about 95% copper and 5% zinc. Beginning in 1982, the proportion of each metal was reversed because the value of the copper in a cent was becoming more valuable than a penny. When you smash a post-1982 penny, the elongation process will reveal the zinc underneath the copper plating of the coin.

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Private rolls sometimes have stained backs to show the dates of the pennies. The roller (Mr. Chester M. Rogers in this specific case) might have used Deft brand spray stain or Jet and Mohawk brand stain. Nowadays it’s really hard to buy those stains as they aren’t produced anymore (so fare we know). On top of it it’s not a really good idea to use a stained coin with a public penny machine because nobody will clean the die afterwards.

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Initials on elongated coins may refer to:

• Designers
• Engravers
• Rollers
• Manufacturers
• Sponsors
• Dealers
• Numismatic Clubs

Now some maybe are rollers but not designers. Some are designers but not rollers. Some design and roll. Some may engrave but not deal with the artwork. And some do it all. Over time (to the best of our knowledge) we will try to add specific information about each initials as we gather the information along our journey through the realms of elongated coins.

So here we go with the current version of our key (incomplete of course) to that specific elongated coin riddle:

Initials	Name/Company	Image
462	Don Berry
ABC	Anastasia, Bob, and Charlotte Hoff
AC	Adam J. Cool
AG	Alice Goodman
AH
AM
AR	Angelo A. Rosato
AV	Adele & Norman Vogel (Rollers, Engravers - TEC #1966 & 1997)
AZ	Anita Zell Las Vegas
BCS	Bruce C. Sumner
BE
BG	Bronislaus (Brownie) A. Gill
BJ	Bill Jackson
BJ	Bruce Jones Memphis, Tennessee
BOB	Bob Frazier TEC#4915
BR	Banyas Barnesyarde - Brad Ream
BS	Bert Samsa
BX	James Brown and Myron Xenos
C	Often used to denote a copy of an earlier elongated coin.
C	Copper Charms
C	Carlos Curry of Louisville, Kentucky Roller
©	Copyrighted
C in box, triangle on top	Cliff Roth
C-7	Cee Ceven (Betty Kirby and Rudy Skarita)
CASH	Carol & Steve Hursh
CAW
CBW	C. B. Weatherly
CC	Copper Charms
CEW	Cecil E. Walls
CH	Bud Hicks
CH	Charles Ray Harden 11408 E Parr Avenue, Brazil, IN 47834 1-812-877-1157 Roller
CK	Carol Kilcoyne
CL	Charles Lorati
CM	C. Gus Meccarello
CM	Copper Memories
CMI	Copper Memories
CMJ
CMH
CMR	Chester M. Rogers
CO-7	James Bond
CS
CW	Carl Webster
CW	Claude Waite
CZC	Cindy Calhoun
DA###	Over 250 designs showing DA and then the die issue number
DAW	Don A. Wilkinson TEC#1079 Designer & Roller
DC	Donald Cade
DC	Danny B. Crabb
DD	Dottie Dow
DD	Don Duncan
DE
DES	Donald E. Sabo Collector, Engraver, and Roller Avondale, Arizona TEC # 341 LM
DESCO	David E. Stoicheff
DJ	D. Jakebovits
DJM	Dave Macdiarmid
DM
DMH
DP	Dwayne Padon
DR	Don Roth
DRP	Dwayne Padon
DS	Donald E. Sabo Collector, Engraver, and Roller Avondale, Arizona
DS	David Spellman
DT	Dan Thompson
DT	Dave True
DW	Don Wendt
DWJ	David W. Jordan
e	Eurolink
EA# (EA1, EA2, EA3 etc.)	Elmer Anderson Roller
ECHO	W. W. Miller
ED	Ed McClung
EG	Ewell Gunter
EH	Errick Hermann
ELM	E.L. Murdoch
EPE	Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc.
ET# (ET1, ET2, ET3 etc.)	Eurotoken Installer
EW	Ed Weaton
FB	Frank E. Brazzell from Indiana. Master engraver and builder of rolling machines. Mentor of Jim Dundon. Passed away in 1996.
FGS
FL
FS	Frank Spandone
FSC
G	Eric H. Goodwin
GFB
GA
GAE
GK	George E. Kesterson
GM	Gus Meccarello Engraver
GPB	Gary & Phyllis Bible
GW	George Wanzug
GWE	Gerald William Elliott Sr. Roller
HA
HCS	Harold C. Schmal
HDA	H. D. Alien
HE	House of Elongateds (Lee Martin/Warren Bunge)
HG	Horace Grant
HHT	Harry H.Taylor
HOE	House of Elongateds (Lee Martin/Warren Bunge)
HLB
HM	Holden Manufacturing, Inc. Manufacturer 2938 Stonewall Place Sanford, FL 32773 Phone: 407-321-1653 Toll Free: 800-643-2566 Fax: 407-321-5311 Holden Manufacturing, Inc. on Archive.org Holden Manufacturing, Inc. on Facebook.com
HM	Houston Marshall Private Roller
HWB	Henry W. Blaha Roller
IG
JB	Jamie Bennett
JB	James Hanna Brown
JD	Jim Dundon (Paradise Engraving) Engraver
JES
JF	Joe Franklin
JGS	John G. Spadone
JH	Joseph Hotter
JJ	Jim Dundon (Paradise Engraving) Engraver
JJR	RALPH JONES (may appear reversed)
JK	James Kilcoyne Coyne Designs (TEC # 1887) Designer, Engraver, Roller (Acid Etching, Rotary Engraving, Hand Engraving) 5274 Linton Road Cadiz, Kentucky 42211 kilcoynejames@hotmail.com
JK	Jess Kirby
JLB
JM	Jack Meccarello (Roller)
JN	John & Nancy Wooten
JR	Jerry Rathburn
JR	Jack Rosenblath
JR	RALPH JONES (may appear reversed)
JRN	Jason R. Nelson Roller
JS	James Singleton
JS	John G. Spadone
JW	Jack Wilcox
K	C. C. Kemp
KH	Banyas Barnesyarde - Kay Harpold
KMCS	Karen San Gregory
KWG	Kyle Greer Sponsor
L (circled)	R. W. Luchtman (L.P. Engravers)
L	Lord's Prayer Engravers (Charles Lorati)
LB	Lenard Babin
LB	Lee Bowser
LCS	L. C. Summer
LCS	Lido Coin Shop
LE	Lodestar Entertainment
LEW	Lloyd E. Wagaman
LEW	Lisa Whitcomb Roller
LEM	Lee Martin
LH	Lurene Haines (2001 TEC membership nickel)
LHT	Len H. Trump
LOU	Lou Brock
LS	LS
LT	Len H. Trump
LW	Lloyd Wagaman
MC	Maecri Italy (Italian company) XII refers to the engraver's sequence. The silver coin is from Spain. The installer is 'ET' (see above)
MFT
MH	Millard Hajek
MLBP	Major League Baseball Players
MK	Business Cents LLC & Studio Twelve28 Josh and Michelle Kilcoyne PO Box 134 Noblesville, IN 46061 1-317-363-1587 Website: Business Cents LLC & Studio Twelve28 Email: Michelle Kilcoyne
MLH	Mark Hill
MM	M & M Elongates Mary Eggleston and A. Elizabeth "Manchie" Batterton Hickman Coin Shop 5815 Longview Road Kansas City, Missouri 64134
MM	Mary Eggleston M & M Elongates (Mary Eggleston and A. Elizabeth "Manchie" Batterton) Hickman Coin Shop 5815 Longview Road Kansas City, Missouri 64134
MM	Michael Mochizuki
MOM	Marlyse Hansemann
MP	Michael Pender Sponsor or Dealer - Non Roller Producer
MT	Michael Toennessen Designer
MT	Marie F. Trinny Sponsor or Dealer - Non Roller Producer
MTC
MW	Mark Wright
N&RM	Norman & Ruth MacQuithy (Roller)
NINA	Nina MacDonald
NRM	Norm & Ruth MacQuithy (Roller)
NS	Nick Salimbene
OLY	Bob Olson, Illinois
OP	Oded Paz Designer & Roller
PB	Paul Brenner
PC	Paul Case
PC	Penny Collector
PE	Paradise Engraving (Jim Dundon)
PJ	P. Janic
PLB	Pearl L. Buoker
PPC
PM	PennyMachines.com The Penny Men, A Division of CTM Group, Inc. 13 Red Roof Lane, Unit 1A Salem, NH 03079 1-866-766-7166
PP
PS
PW
PWC	Paul Conner Paul Conner Studios, LLC
R	Robert Stafford
RB	Rodney W. Baker
RCK
REB	Robert E. Buoker
RG-#	Robert E. Gilger Roller TEC # 3810
RH	Renée Asha Petronilla Hansemann Designer TEC # 3435
RHB
RHJ	Robert H. Jacobs
RJ	Ralph Jones Roller
RJJ	Ralph Jones Roller
RK	Ron Kanke Roller
ЯM	Rob Morris
RL	Ray Loutzenhiser
RR	Rocky Rockholt (The Penny-Press Machine Co., LLC) Manufacturer & Installer
RR	Ronald Readon
RS	Robert & Shirley Stafford
RS	Russ Sears
RTL	Ray T. Leveille
RW	Ray Wagner, Jr.
RWC
RWD	Ray W. Dillard
RWJ	Ralph W. Jobe
RWL	Robert W. Luchtman
SAK	Sally & Al Kirka
SB	Steve Beecher
SDPM	San Diego Penny Machine
SE-# (SE-1, SE-2, SE-3 etc.)	Scott Eddy TEC#4661 Fresno Elongated Penny's
SEC	Superior Elongated Coins Dennis Paul Berry
SG	Shel Green
SoC	Stamps on Coins (Jess Kirby)
SP	Smashing Pennies (Katrina and Zac Gowen)
SPI
SPM	Smashed Penny Museum
SPM
SSC	Sea Shell City, Inc. 708 Coastal Highway Fenwick Island, DE 19944
SSF	Suzie Sims-Fletcher
TAC
TAK
TDT	Tyler Tyson
TG	Tom Gerhardt
TK	Boeing Employees Coin Club (BECC) The BECC 53rd annual coin show in Kent, Washington was held January 21-22, 2017. Wooden nickels and elongated cents with the 747-8 Intercontinental design were available at the coin show until supplies were exhausted. (One free wooden nickel and one free elongated cent per show attendee. Additional cents could be purchased.)
TMC
TPP	Carl Webster The Penny Pincher Robinson, Illinois
TR	Tom Russo
TW	Tom Wiebe
T#Y ( "T1Y," T2Y," "T3Y"…)	Bert Creighton (Roller) TEC #2095
VB	Vicky Bowser
VCS
VF	Vance Fowler
WCM	William C. Massey Luck "E" Penny P.O.Box 1511 Beltsville, MD 20704-1511
WDA	Wayne D. Ashford
WDW
WG	William Gardner
WJH	William T. Helmerick
WLP
WLS
WM	William C. Massey Luck "E" Penny P.O.Box 1511 Beltsville, MD 20704-1511
WR	William Rogers
WSA	Whitney, Spero & Alien
∞	CO88

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